More Stories from Patonga – looking for contributors

It is a publication titled ‘Stories from Patonga’ that was released in December 2010.  It is a collection of stories from 33 people who lived in Patonga between 2006-2010.  It is not an historical account, but rather a collection of those people’s memories that sometimes gave glimpses of Patonga’s history.

In January 2020, Patonga Project announced that work would begin on a new edition, ‘More Stories from Patonga’.  In the first edition, I would sit with people and have a chat about their experiences and memories of Patonga.  The conversation was recorded and later transcribed.  The Corona virus disrupted our plans for some time. With restrictions now being lifted, we can now proceed and we have developed an additional pathway.If you have a computer, can you send me a story?  The only rules are, there must be some relationship to Patonga and you can’t make any comment that others might find hurtful.

Some questions that may help you focus include:

How did you get to find Patonga?  What do you remember of that time?  Do you have any special traditions relating to Patonga?  Do you remember any ‘characters’ from that time?  What did you do when you were there?  Who did you do it with?  What did you love about Patonga?

OR:

You might find it easier to grab a photograph of a time when you were at Patonga.  Who is in the photo? What were you doing?  Why?

We have never had a camping story and so many campers visit every year!

If you don’t have a computer, can you record your story (or your Mums) and send me the file?  I’ll type it for you.

These books are essentially a collection of people’s stories and they can’t be done without people contributing their memories.  ‘Stories from Patonga’ is a feel-good sort of a read, it is not rocket science, nor will it ever be a best seller.  But it did give people a smile and helps to preserve some of the memories that make Patonga such a special place.  We expect the same with ‘More Stories from Patonga’. 

Please send me a story.  Photographs make the story come alive so try to include some.  I can help you to edit the story and scan photos or help in any way that I can.  You have final editing rights and can withdraw your consent to use the story at any time up to publication.

When we have a collection, we will publish it and have a book launch in the hall for all contributors.  The last book launch was enjoyed by everyone.

Get on board – it is not as scary as it sounds.

Jennifer

Patonga Project jenniferevans@hotmail.com.au

2 FISHING CONTEST IN THE SAME MONTH – April 1936

Commencing at midnight on Friday, 10THApril 1936 a fishing competition, with anglers sleeping beside thelr lines, ended on the following Monday night at Patonga Beach, No fewer than 121 persons competed from Gosford, Sydney, Newcastle, and other areas.  Among the competitors were 25 women, and the ages of the male competitors ranged from 8 to 75 years.  Mr. S. Brown, of Patonga, was the oldest. Two cups were awarded, one for the heaviest flathead and the other for the largest Individual blackfish,

MESSRS. A. SMITH and W. Bale, of Patonga, were successful in catching the largest flathead during the fishing competition, their fish weighing 8 lb. Mr. W. Norford, of Sydney, won the contest for the largest individual blackflsh and also the cup for the competition, his total haul being 818 fish, 180 of which were caught in nine hours. There were 121 competitors. Including 25 women, and the ages ranged from 8 to 16 years. So successful has the competition proved, that the Amateur Fishermen’s Association, which was responsible for this contest, will conduct another over the Anzac week-end.

Mr. P. S. Williams, of the Patonga Beach Social Club, states that in the club’s Anzac week-end fishing competition, Mick Simmons’ special trophy for the largest number of blackfish was awarded to Mr. G. Peaty who caught 68 of an average weight of two lb.

ANZAC DAY WINNERS

CHARACTERS OF PATONGA Nellie FLOWERS. (1890 – 1968)– How did she get to Patonga and was it because of a broken heart.

Nellie Flowers was born into the family of Fred and Annie Flowers.  Fred had been originally born in England and immigrated in 1882.  He was a painter and plasterer by trade and soon became involved in the Labor movement.  Nellie was the second of four children.  Fred was a major influence in the Labor movement of inner Sydney.

Fred FLOWERS was president of the premier Rugby League club, South Sydney, in 1908-28; as the patron of the New South Wales Rugby Football League in 1910-28, he contributed much to its survival in the difficult early years. In 1924 he became first chairman of the league’s Australian Board of Control.  Flowers encouraged the building of a new zoological gardens at Taronga Park, on Bradleys Head, and became chairman of the controlling trust next year. In 1915-16 he arranged the transfer of animals and birds from their inadequate location in Moore Park to their new harbour site. The zoo became known internationally. State’s first minister of public health, from April 1914 to April 1915.Fred was given a life appointment to the Legislative Council in 1900 and was President of the Legislative Council for 13 years.  As a Minister, Flowers made many important contributions including improvements to police working conditions while Colonial Secretary, and as the first Minister for Public Health he oversaw the introduction of public health centres for mothers and infants.

Nellie Flowers, aged 27 had married Carl IRVING, aged 30, a dentist, in 9thJune 1917 at St. Stephen’s Church Sydney.  IRVING had been married previously in 1908 whilst as a student, aged 22, and then divorced in 1913.  He had spent 2 days with his NZ wife before she returned to New Zealand.  

In 1921 Nellie filed for divorce over desertion brought a suit at the Divorce Court on Wednesday, against her levanting husband, Carl Howard Irving, an Oxford-street dental doctor, for divorce, on the ground of desertion. Petitioner is the daughter or Mr. Fred Flowers, President of the Legislative Council. Mr. Markell (instructed by Mr F. Marsden) appeared for petitioner, and the suit was not defended. Mrs. Irving, slender and good-looking was wedded on June 9, 1917, the ceremony being performed at St. Stephen’s Presbyterian Kirk Sydney, by the Rev. John Ferguson.  During the divorce proceedings it was recorded that “…The bridegroom had previous experience of the united state.- for the marriage certificate set forth that he was a divorced petitioner. He was in business as a doctor of dentistry in Oxford-street, and In a good way of making money. Nine fleeting months of life together, however, and the honeymoon waned. It had been, waning for some time, for the fang puller had neglected his young wife by remaining away from home till late at night, and excusing it on the score of pressing business at his surgery. On March 8, whilst they were residing at Milroy-avenue, Kensington; Irving, who was a man over thirty then, and some years older than his wife, packed up his belongings and left home. He had threatened to leave. a few times before, but his wife regarded his threats in the light of a joke, though he had never exhibited much warm affection for her. See full article below:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/169180738?searchTerm=carl%20howard%20irving%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales

Nellie purchased No.’s 21 and 23 Patonga Street in 1931 and 1936 respectively.  She retained the properties until two years before her death, selling them in 1966. I was unable to find records about her time in Patonga other than in 1931 Nellie made application to council to build a weatherboard and fibro home – builder G.T. Page.

In September 1941, an obituary states   Dr. Carl Howard Irving dental surgeon, of Forest Road, Hurstville, who died suddenly in Brisbane while on a holiday, practised his profession at Hurstville. He secured his degree in U.S.A., and had travelled around the world twice.  He took much interest in the art of magic, and his library on that subject was perhaps, one of the largest in Australia. The late Dr. Irving was a member of the A.J.C., and also of the St. George Bowling Club. He married Miss Fuller, of Parramatta, and had one daughter, Miss Ursula Irving who is a singer..   

There is no mention of Carl’s previous two marriages in his obituary.Nellie died in 1968 aged 76.  She is recorded in the name of Nellie FLOWERS so it can be a

We Need Your Help to Capture the History of Houses in Patonga

Patonga’s Houses

The Patonga Project is about to commence its first undertaking and we need your help! We are trying to get a handle on the homes of Patonga’s inhabitants. We would like to get an idea of the types of houses that were originally built in Patonga as well as a current survey of the dwellings today.
The ultimate goal would be to have an exhibition in the hall to display the photos and memories of the past as well as current dreams and aspirations. You may not have owned the home, but rather rented it for holidays or just have great memories of the house. We hope to use a search of land titles to show different home sites and match the time period with photographs and/or memories. In the end, or course, the outcome will depend on what information is received.
The following list of questions is meant as a guide and some may not be applicable to you and your home.
What is the address?
Does/did the house have a name?
What is your first memory of this house? Year?
What is your favourite memory of the house?
Is the house still standing? When was it demolished? Do you have photos of the previous structure?
How is this house important to you?

Wharf Road
Wharf Road aka Jacaranda Ave

Description of the House
Please provide a photograph of the front of the house. For homes in Bay Street and Patonga Street, on the waterfront, photographs of both the front and back should be included if possible.
Street:
Number:

History and remarks (if known)
Eg: When was it built? Renovated?

Date of Photograph (if known) and the Photographer (if known)

Marinook 2009
Marinook 2009

Architectural style. Building materials
Walls:
Roof:
Chimneys:
Windows:
Awning/s:
Verandah Roof, floor, supports, decoration.
Front Door:
Exterior Doors:
Fence:
Gate:
Other Features:

Please send through your document and/or photographs to PatongaProject@hotmail.com If you do not have access to a computer, please let us know so that we can come and write your thoughts and scan your photos over a cuppa.

Thank you